Posts by choosing life

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Don't want to hurt your parents/famly's feelings huh?

by dawg in

i've read where many of you have posted that you "don't want to hurt family members feelings" and that's the reason you don't come clean about how you feel as far as the jw's go.

i was wondering if it ever dawned on you who think like this how you still are being abused mentally by both this religion and your family by worrying about their feelings while they have total disregard for your thoughts and/or feelings?

i've never told a family member how they must think for me to talk to them; never hounded a family member to come to a meeting they have clearly shown they don't want to attend.

choosing life

Dawg,

Do you have parents or grown children still immersed in the lie? Will they shun you if you make them listen to your views on the WBTS? When considering any relationship thay you truly cherish, there will always be some give and take on each person's part. Religious discussions often are like political discussions, they can become heated and feelings get involved. That does little to further the relationship.

I no longer attend any dub functions and I know my family is aware that I don't believe in their brand of religion. I don't care for it when they try to put pressure on me to return, therefore I don't put pressure on them to leave. We respect each other's beliefs or lack thereof.

I feel to push it to a point that forces them to shun me is to put a great deal of emotional pain on myself and them. My dub family doesn't want to shun me anymore than I want to be shunned. If I create a situation where the elders insist they shun me, what is the point? Am I not submitting myself and family to being forced to play the game? Sometimes, it is just better to leave well enough alone.

I put one exception on this and that is my husband. I have been totally open with him and we are working it out. In the end, each person has a unique situation and has to decide for herself how to best handle it.

87

Sitting her forgetting it all.

by Sparkplug in

jw
friends

trying to remember what it is i have been supposed to be doing since monday.

don't have a clue.. my daughter ran away and all her stupid ass friends are not giving her up.

the police are looking and nothing.

choosing life

Sparkplug,

Sorry to hear about your daughter. I had a son who ran away at 16 and it took a while before we found him. The police were no help at all and told us he had the right to run away, but we would be responsible for any damage he might get involved in until he was 18. It was one of the hardest things I ever went through and my heart goes out to you.

We eventually found him because a kid's parents felt for us and told us where he was. We forced him to come home, but it didn't last long. We were still dubs at the time and after he was dfd, things went down hill from there. He was in a tailspin for a few years.

The final result is that we have a good relationship with him now and he is married and holds a steady job. On the other hand, he still has serious problems and I would describe him as a lost soul who just can't seem to make sense of this world. He blames his upbringing as a dub for messing him up emotionally (me too), but we are out now and it doesn't seem to make a difference.

I hope your daughter finds her way back safely, but be prepared for a long journey. There is no greater fear than worrying for your child's safety in this crazy world. Once again, my heart goes out to you.

Love, choosing life

44

did you have CO's with speical dietary requirements ??

by karter in

we hade one if you served him a meal with onions he would not eat it and said to one sister"don't you know i can't eat this!

" no she did'nt.

the latest co around here if you have them for a meal you get a list what they will not eat.

choosing life

We used to have the CO and his wife stay with us for years. Back then, they were grateful and ate the meals we provided. I always asked what foods they liked as that is just being hospitable. They didn't have any crazy diets though.

Later, as they stayed in trailers and then apartments at the hall, it seemed like a lot of them sent specific requirements for their meals. We decided to just take them to a restaurant and let them choose what to eat themselves. It seemed like most of the gratefulness was missing and we seldom even got a thank you after the meal.

In the end, I absolutely refused to feed them at all.

21

Do you think the guys in the Governing Body belive in the Governing Body?

by Samuel Thorsen in

jw
friends

i presume they do.

they are probably so intoxicated by their own power that they belive in the never ending rubbish.. or am i wrong?

is there other reasons to stay on the top of the hill?.

choosing life

Some may, but the real situation is what drives a company man. There are those that just aren't satisfied until they attain to the top position in their otganization. They love the titles and being looked upon as someone special. They love the office with a view. God forbid that the thought that they are like everyone else ever crosses their mind. There's nothing more fear provoking and causes them to convince themselves all over again how special they are.

Think how hard it is to leave the witnesses in your situation. Then think how hard it would be to walk away from the constant praise of being one of God's special chosen ones who leads his people on earth. Their whole life is wrapped up in this. It is a scary thought to believe your life has been spent pursuing something unreal.

26

tired and disappointed with the door to door

by buffalosrfree in

jw
friends

heard my spouse utter those words today, nice words couldn't have been said, spouse is starting to realize that all that work in the d-d isn't paying off for those at the door nor for those knocking.

have been waiting for this for a long time

choosing life

Door to door has been ineffective for many years. I can't imagine spending the money that gas costs today on driving around wasting time. I often got stuck driving and there are those who never share the cost of gas.

If the society wants to "lesson the burden" on the dubs, they would eliminate service rather than the book study.

29

Hmmmn..Intresting Convo with my DAD last NIGHT

by dirtyknections in

so me and my father who is an elder get into yet another rather tense discussions about the bible .

and my new found "beliefs".

one of the things we discussed was my belief that the way we conduct studies... .

choosing life

Anyone who refuses to talk with dissenters is a coward. What the watchtower is effectively doing is looking for easily persuaded and controllable persons. It has always bothered me that they refuse to deal with sincere questions and gaping holes in their logic.

Their method of teaching most of us outgrow in elementary school.

8

Goodnight Dick

by DJK in

dick martin of "rowan and martins laugh in" died today.. thanks for the memories, goodnight dick.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zxd33lsm8i.

choosing life

I was just a kid but I do remember watching Laugh-In. It was a groundbreaking show for its time. I didn't know that Dick had passed. Sad.

60

Graduation and elders meeting!

by why??? in

hi everyone, i'm not new here just haven't posted in a while.

for those who remember me i'm graduating from college on wednesday!!!!

i'm very happy but there's still a dark cloud (pardon the dramatic-ness) i am still with my non-jw boyfriend of almost three years and i've let my parents know that we want to get married (next month) and they went and told the elders(they did it kinda behind my back) who now want to meet and talk with me!

choosing life

Hey, maybe I didn't read you right the first time. If you are living with your boyfriend, that's a whole different situation. If that's the case, you might want to avoid the meeting. Sad part is, if two family members want to rat you out, you can be dfd without the meeting.

If they don't have two witnesses against you, don't be the second one yourself. Once again, congrats on the college degree and best wishes to you.

50

New book: Keep Yourselves In God's Love: Chapter and appendix on blood

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

here is a scan of the chapter on do you value life as god does?.

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choosing life

This was the craziness that made me furious at the powers that be in the WBTS. How on earth can you say you don't take plasma, WBCs, RBCs or platelets and then turn around and say you can take any fraction of these same things. Also, they don't donate or store blood, but they gladly suck it up in these "fractions" from other's stored blood.

Then they trump it all by dumping the decision on the individual to try to prevent any legal ramifications. I wait eagerly for the day that they are forced to take resonsibility for their twisted deceptions perpetrated upon innocent victims.

14

Faith healing

by Zico in

jw
friends

last month a friend of mine went to a christian conference in the uk, when she told me about this, she was quite excited, apparently, she had witnessed a miracle.

she saw a women's leg grow 1.5 inches!

previously, it had been shorter than the other leg due to a skiing accident, but now, both legs are the same size.

choosing life

The video is not very convincing. How can anyone tell if her leg is not just slightly pulled higher than the other and slowly lowered? You would think when filming a miracle, they would want there to be no guessing.